I usually avoid NTR or Swinging/Sharing games, especially if there's a Romance tag attached as well. I decided to give it a chance after seeing that it's optional for the exception of the side characters. Even then, I was surprised to see that you still get some choice about some of that as well, or at least there was a choice for one instance of it (Maybe there's more that I missed or am forgetting). Not to say that you'll always get the choice but there does look to be choices some of the time.
It's still early on so there isn't that much there at the moment, but what is there is pretty decent and well written! I think if you liked The Headmaster, or Dropout saga you'll probably like this.
I will say, I'm glad when Emiko was re-introduced she became a Main Target and not a side character. Although we haven't seen much of her yet but I probably would've hated if she was re-introduced as a side character.
I do have a few questions though:
It's not explicitly mentioned but I'm assuming this is a harem game? Given all that goes on and with what Haruka says when asking MC out I imagine that it is, but still
Is there a gallery planned?
I noticed that characters have a ntr variable. Does that mean in the future said characters won't be won over by others if the player wins them over first? Assuming there are even plans to let the player influence that in the first place. Not a big deal either way but I seen it and became rather curious
1 - I hesitate to call this game a 'harem' , because the unspoken rule of this genre is that ALL of the girls present in the game would belong only to the MC. While you can keep all of the main girls to yourself, the side character's purpose are not to be Love Interests for the MC.
2 - There is a gallery planned, the persistent code is already added, so it'll be save compatible.
3 - That individual variable is there so that the player can choose to share some of the girls instead of all of them. Another thing to note is that the MC won't ever 'lose the girls' to someone, it's not Netorare, the sharing is a tool the MC can use to corrupt the girls. (the variable is called ntr because it's a simple and easy to remember name :P). Also, there is a general 'sharing' variable, that if the player refuses, it would turn that content off and hide these options so that the player wouldn't see them anymore.
I agree about Emiko becoming a Main Target and hope she stays more as one of the main girls for the MC. Like in the prologue, the MC and Emiko really like each other and it would've be ashamed if she becomes a side character.
Was liking it until the Haruka office scene. imo you should have a way to refuse her there once she kisses you, there should be a path where you refuse to see a girl you don't like as a valid human/emotional/sexual partner and just corrupt her by putting her in degrading situations involving others.
Despite saying through her one would have a choice to refuse, none's given, and MC just lets the situation escalate and get out of hand when at many points I'd have stopped it. I kinda wanted to go for a "looks proper to the students, and does the shady stuff behind their backs, them being none the wiser to his true nature" run, sad it's not an option.
You actually can manage not to get that scene, all you have to do is not give her a strike after the first gym event.
I try to give the player as many options as I can, and there are a lot of ways to control the scenes to your liking, but sometimes, it'd just make the scope of the game way too big for a 1-person dev project if every playstyle were to be adopted. And concerning Haruka, she is one of the main targets of the Academy, so inevitably, there will be a point in which the player will get close to her, especially because she can be quite assertive, so if one of the main girls is a turnoff, there's not much I can do...
And the MC in that scene does appear a little too passive, but that was also intended, as he is supposed to be caught 'off-guard' and surprised by Haruka. Later on, he starts to 'get it' and realize how much power he has inside the Academy.
Hey, thanks for the reply, sorry for taking so long to write back!
I'd first like to say that this game is very valuable because it explores a niche many other devs and games take distance - and are at times ouright pushed away - from. So you creating this game is such a boon to the community, and that should always be at the forefront of any appraisal of it, I feel.
When it comes to the scope of the game getting too big if too much is added, I understand how that's a concern for any developer, and that you are aware of that pitfall and trying to avoid it speaks well of you. However, that argument I think I'd accept more if I were saying "please create this C route!" - which maybe it looked like I was asking for, when I said I wanted to act as this "mask of propriety, scheming behind everyone's back MC".
But since you say there is a way to avoid getting that Haruka scene, that already means there are two states - "had sex with Haruka" and "didn't have sex with Haruka." Both are already in the game, and I'm not saying to create additional ones. What I'm saying is that, imo, the game would be best served by having another "state flip" inside of the office room. So what decides if you go down state A instead of B isn't just the "strike choice", but also this would be second "office choice", which imo is justified because on the strike choice it's not clear that striking Haruka would irrevocably lead you to get sexual with her. To me the sexual ramifications of the choice were not nearly telegraphed enough.
I understand that your resources, of time and motivation, are limited. So it's totally fine if for you this is a non-issue, or you see it and think, "he has a point, but it places really low on my list of priorities." Continuing the game's story should always be, I think, amongst a developer's highest priorities - no one likes endless remakes of the early game when the whole is nowhere near finished. But maybe note this down somewhere, and it can be something you add/change once you complete the game, and are looking back at the entirity of it for potential things to improve.
Again, this game is valuable to the AVN community as a whole, as is you developing it. That's the most important thing here, and I'm rooting for your success. Be sure to take of yourself first and foremost, so you can bring this game to completion, for it's needed.
For the few, or a lot of people who hate NTR, do not rate, nor play this game.
I played the game, just to see why so many would whine/hate about it, and I never ran into one, NTR scene. Sure I may have just chose different choices, or maybe it's not implemented yet.
If you're one who doesn't like NTR, then just don't play games w/ the tag, don't comment, nor rate. Games with the tag "NTR" are for those people who like it.
I don't know why so many shame others for just having a fantasy/kink/fetish... It's like anime (since most who play VN's like it), you like anime, and people who don't sometimes hate on it in-front of your face, and you either sit there, or try to explain to them it's not bad... It's the same for fantasies, kinks, and fetishes.
I think every VN creator who implements NTR would have their games viewership sky rocket, okay, maybe not SKY ROCKET... but still. Just make it optional at the start of the game, so both parties can be happy.
As for the creator, keep going on creating this game if it makes you feel happy, or as if it's your passion to create these games.
The quote of the day (lifetime): "If you don't like something, you cannot rate it" (It's true, you may not like steak, but that's a preference, if you do like steak, then you can do a tier-list about them, on which one is better... that's the best example I can give.)
If you commented about my previous comment being a mess, I'd agree with you. But instead you tried to say I am in the wrong for not wanting to ruin this creator's rating? That's silly.
Did you think you sounded clever by writing this? I hope not, since I am not issuing anyone to do a single thing, I don't have a weapon to their head.
How long did it take you to think of that comment, or did you just copy-pasta?
What I said is what I said, not what you somehow twisted it into. If you wish to discuss what I actually did say I'm open to that. I'm not interesting in talking about your creative interpretation of it.
All I hear is you yapping it up. You want to sound smart so badly. You're on this site, and we all know what you're here for. Again, do you like my AWP?
Yes, Swinging will be optional with the main girls. Some of the side characters will still have some scene which some people may consider NTR, like the one in the prologue, but you'll always have the choice not to watch them.
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I usually avoid NTR or Swinging/Sharing games, especially if there's a Romance tag attached as well. I decided to give it a chance after seeing that it's optional for the exception of the side characters. Even then, I was surprised to see that you still get some choice about some of that as well, or at least there was a choice for one instance of it (Maybe there's more that I missed or am forgetting). Not to say that you'll always get the choice but there does look to be choices some of the time.
It's still early on so there isn't that much there at the moment, but what is there is pretty decent and well written! I think if you liked The Headmaster, or Dropout saga you'll probably like this.
I will say, I'm glad when Emiko was re-introduced she became a Main Target and not a side character. Although we haven't seen much of her yet but I probably would've hated if she was re-introduced as a side character.
I do have a few questions though:
Hey, thanks for giving the game a try ;)
As for your questions:
1 - I hesitate to call this game a 'harem' , because the unspoken rule of this genre is that ALL of the girls present in the game would belong only to the MC. While you can keep all of the main girls to yourself, the side character's purpose are not to be Love Interests for the MC.
2 - There is a gallery planned, the persistent code is already added, so it'll be save compatible.
3 - That individual variable is there so that the player can choose to share some of the girls instead of all of them. Another thing to note is that the MC won't ever 'lose the girls' to someone, it's not Netorare, the sharing is a tool the MC can use to corrupt the girls. (the variable is called ntr because it's a simple and easy to remember name :P). Also, there is a general 'sharing' variable, that if the player refuses, it would turn that content off and hide these options so that the player wouldn't see them anymore.
I agree about Emiko becoming a Main Target and hope she stays more as one of the main girls for the MC. Like in the prologue, the MC and Emiko really like each other and it would've be ashamed if she becomes a side character.
Is the netorase optional?
Yes.
Android when?
Attempting to try the android port. Says package is invalid? May be a file size issue?
Great game on windows!
Seems like there's an issue with the android build. I'll try and fix it later when I have the time.
Android port should be working now.Thanks for letting me know!
Was liking it until the Haruka office scene. imo you should have a way to refuse her there once she kisses you, there should be a path where you refuse to see a girl you don't like as a valid human/emotional/sexual partner and just corrupt her by putting her in degrading situations involving others.
Despite saying through her one would have a choice to refuse, none's given, and MC just lets the situation escalate and get out of hand when at many points I'd have stopped it. I kinda wanted to go for a "looks proper to the students, and does the shady stuff behind their backs, them being none the wiser to his true nature" run, sad it's not an option.
You actually can manage not to get that scene, all you have to do is not give her a strike after the first gym event.
I try to give the player as many options as I can, and there are a lot of ways to control the scenes to your liking, but sometimes, it'd just make the scope of the game way too big for a 1-person dev project if every playstyle were to be adopted. And concerning Haruka, she is one of the main targets of the Academy, so inevitably, there will be a point in which the player will get close to her, especially because she can be quite assertive, so if one of the main girls is a turnoff, there's not much I can do...
And the MC in that scene does appear a little too passive, but that was also intended, as he is supposed to be caught 'off-guard' and surprised by Haruka. Later on, he starts to 'get it' and realize how much power he has inside the Academy.
Thanks for giving the game a try though ;)
Hey, thanks for the reply, sorry for taking so long to write back!
I'd first like to say that this game is very valuable because it explores a niche many other devs and games take distance - and are at times ouright pushed away - from. So you creating this game is such a boon to the community, and that should always be at the forefront of any appraisal of it, I feel.
When it comes to the scope of the game getting too big if too much is added, I understand how that's a concern for any developer, and that you are aware of that pitfall and trying to avoid it speaks well of you. However, that argument I think I'd accept more if I were saying "please create this C route!" - which maybe it looked like I was asking for, when I said I wanted to act as this "mask of propriety, scheming behind everyone's back MC".
But since you say there is a way to avoid getting that Haruka scene, that already means there are two states - "had sex with Haruka" and "didn't have sex with Haruka." Both are already in the game, and I'm not saying to create additional ones. What I'm saying is that, imo, the game would be best served by having another "state flip" inside of the office room. So what decides if you go down state A instead of B isn't just the "strike choice", but also this would be second "office choice", which imo is justified because on the strike choice it's not clear that striking Haruka would irrevocably lead you to get sexual with her. To me the sexual ramifications of the choice were not nearly telegraphed enough.
I understand that your resources, of time and motivation, are limited. So it's totally fine if for you this is a non-issue, or you see it and think, "he has a point, but it places really low on my list of priorities." Continuing the game's story should always be, I think, amongst a developer's highest priorities - no one likes endless remakes of the early game when the whole is nowhere near finished. But maybe note this down somewhere, and it can be something you add/change once you complete the game, and are looking back at the entirity of it for potential things to improve.
Again, this game is valuable to the AVN community as a whole, as is you developing it. That's the most important thing here, and I'm rooting for your success. Be sure to take of yourself first and foremost, so you can bring this game to completion, for it's needed.
Happy New Year, wishing you all the best！心想事成🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Heyy! Thank you, happy new year for you as well ;)
For the few, or a lot of people who hate NTR, do not rate, nor play this game.
I played the game, just to see why so many would whine/hate about it, and I never ran into one, NTR scene. Sure I may have just chose different choices, or maybe it's not implemented yet.
If you're one who doesn't like NTR, then just don't play games w/ the tag, don't comment, nor rate. Games with the tag "NTR" are for those people who like it.
I don't know why so many shame others for just having a fantasy/kink/fetish... It's like anime (since most who play VN's like it), you like anime, and people who don't sometimes hate on it in-front of your face, and you either sit there, or try to explain to them it's not bad... It's the same for fantasies, kinks, and fetishes.
I think every VN creator who implements NTR would have their games viewership sky rocket, okay, maybe not SKY ROCKET... but still. Just make it optional at the start of the game, so both parties can be happy.
As for the creator, keep going on creating this game if it makes you feel happy, or as if it's your passion to create these games.
The quote of the day (lifetime): "If you don't like something, you cannot rate it" (It's true, you may not like steak, but that's a preference, if you do like steak, then you can do a tier-list about them, on which one is better... that's the best example I can give.)
Issuing directives you have no authority to make and no power to enforce is rather silly. The one business you have to mind is your own.
If you commented about my previous comment being a mess, I'd agree with you. But instead you tried to say I am in the wrong for not wanting to ruin this creator's rating? That's silly.
Did you think you sounded clever by writing this? I hope not, since I am not issuing anyone to do a single thing, I don't have a weapon to their head.
How long did it take you to think of that comment, or did you just copy-pasta?
Like my AWP?
What I said is what I said, not what you somehow twisted it into. If you wish to discuss what I actually did say I'm open to that. I'm not interesting in talking about your creative interpretation of it.
All I hear is you yapping it up. You want to sound smart so badly. You're on this site, and we all know what you're here for. Again, do you like my AWP?
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As you should. You can always laugh at their patreojn numbers since they hate romance too
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Take off the Romance tag and replace it with NTR. This games awful if you are looking for that.
Really not sure if this should have a romance tag tbh.
It's definitely not the focus of the game, but there's still some romance to be had with the main girls.
I mean I guess but just feels a bit like a bait to me considering everything else the game is about.
Keep it up. I hope the swinging is optional?
Yes, Swinging will be optional with the main girls. Some of the side characters will still have some scene which some people may consider NTR, like the one in the prologue, but you'll always have the choice not to watch them.
Thanks.
This project looks like it holds much promise, hopefully the developers will release more than the intro soon